Boehner says U.S. on path to default if Obama won't negotiate
WASHINGTON |
(Reuters) - Republican House Speaker John Boehner vowed on Sunday not to
raise the U.S. debt ceiling without a "serious conversation" about what
is driving the debt, while Democrats said it was irresponsible and
reckless to raise the possibility of a U.S. default.
"The nation's credit is at risk
because of the administration's refusal to sit down and have a
conversation," Boehner told ABC's "This Week," adding that there were
not enough votes in the House of Representatives to pass a "clean" debt
limit bill, without any conditions attached.
Asked
if that meant the United States was headed towards a default if
President Barack Obama did not negotiate ahead of an October 17 deadline
to raise the debt ceiling, Boehner said: "That's the path we're on."
The
comments appeared to mark a hardening since late last week when Boehner
was reported to have told Republicans privately that he would work to
avoid default, even if it meant relying on the votes of Democrats, as he
did in August 2011.
Republicans
and Democrats also traded blame for a shutdown that has brought much of
the government to a standstill for nearly a week. With no end in sight,
the battle over funding the government has merged into the one over the
debt ceiling.
Republicans have
demanded that Democrats agree to delay implementation of the Affordable
Care Act, the landmark 2010 law popularly known as Obamacare, as part of
any spending bill.
They have also
been seeking measures to address the federal government's long-term debt
in exchange for raising its $16.7 trillion debt limit. If the borrowing
cap is not increased, the United States could go into default, with
what officials and economists say would be seriously damaging
consequences for the U.S. and global economies.
"I
don't want the United States to default on its debt," Boehner said.
"But I'm not going to raise the debt limit without a serious
conversation about dealing with problems that are driving the debt up.
It would be irresponsible of me to do this."
Treasury
Secretary Jack Lew warned of serious consequences if "the unthinkable"
were to happen and the United States defaulted. "It is irresponsible and
it is reckless to take that chance, which is why Congress needs to
act," he told Fox News.
He told CNN: "On the 17th we run out of our ability to borrow, and Congress is playing with fire."
Senator
Ted Cruz, who has been the standard-bearer for Republican opposition to
funding the government without measures to undercut Obama's healthcare
law, told CNN that Congress frequently in the past had attached curbs on
spending to votes to raise the debt ceiling.
On
this occasion, he said, Republicans were looking for three things
before raising the debt ceiling: a significant structural plan to reduce
government spending, no new taxes, and measures to "mitigate the harm
from Obamacare."
Democrats vow not to negotiate on the funding bill or the debt ceiling, arguing that it is the job of Congress to pay its bills.
MARKETS WARY
Concerns
that the shutdown could trim economic growth coupled with nervousness
over a potential debt ceiling crisis later this month have weighed on
stocks and pushed the U.S. dollar close to an eight-month low.
While
selling has been orderly so far, investors expect volatility to rise as
the shutdown continues and the debt ceiling deadline nears.
Democratic
Senator Charles Schumer told ABC's "This Week" he did not believe
Boehner would let the nation go into default, as it would lead to chaos
on financial markets, freeze lines of credit and cause a jump in
interest rates.
"I believe Speaker
Boehner will not do that when push comes to shove," Schumer said, adding
that Boehner and Republicans would be forced "sooner or later" to stand
up to the "hard right" in their party and give in. "They will have to
back off."
Obama and the Democrats
say bills to fund the government and raise the debt ceiling could be
resolved quickly if Boehner permitted votes on simple,
no-strings-attached measures in the Republican-controlled House.
Asked
about reports that around 20 House Republicans have said they would
join some 200 Democrats in voting for such a bill - enough to pass it -
Boehner told ABC that there were not enough votes in the chamber to pass
such a bill.
White House spokesman
Jay Carney said Boehner should prove he does not have the votes for a
clean bill, known as a "continuing resolution," or CR, by putting a bill
on the House floor. "The Speaker says there are 'not enough votes' to
pass a clean CR? If he's right, why not prove it?" Carney said via
Twitter.
The Affordable Care Act
aims to provide health insurance to millions of Americans without
coverage. Republicans argue it is a massive government intrusion into
private medicine that will cause insurance premiums to skyrocket, put
people out of work and eventually lead to socialized medicine.
The
government shutdown started on Tuesday and initially idled as many as
800,000 federal workers, shuttering all but essential government
operations.
The Pentagon said on
Saturday it would recall the vast majority of some 350,000 civilian
Defense Department employees sent home during the shutdown. The
announcement came as Democrats and Republicans in the House agreed to
pay all furloughed employees retroactively once the government reopened.
NO MAGIC SOLUTION
In an interview on CNN, Lew repeatedly declined to say what would happen if Congress failed to raise the debt ceiling.
Some
Republicans have argued that the U.S. government would be able to
continue to service its debt even if it did not have enough money to pay
all of its bills. Lew declined to say whether that would be the case,
but he argued that it would be just as bad if it missed other
obligations like Social Security pension payments or Medicare payments
to hospitals and doctors.
"There is no option that prevents us from being in default if we don't pay our bills," Lew told CNN's "State of the Union."
Lew
said the Obama administration has determined that legally it does not
have the authority to raise the debt ceiling on its own, as some
Democratic lawmakers have suggested.
"There's
a desire here for there to be some kind of a magic solution. There's an
easy solution: a majority in Congress would do the right thing if given
a chance to open the government. A majority in Congress would do the
right thing if given a chance to let us pay our bills."
While
most House Republicans have remained firmly opposed to reopening the
government without some changes to Obamacare, Republicans in
Democratic-leaning states have been trying to build support for a revolt
against that stance.
In an
opinion piece on Sunday on local news website Philly.com, seven
Republican House members from districts in northeastern states called
for a measure to reopen the government without conditions.
"The
fight to stop Obamacare cannot continue with the government shut down.
That's why we support a short-term, clean funding bill to turn those
lights back on," wrote the group, which included Representatives Charlie
Dent of Pennsylvania and Frank LoBiondo of New Jersey.
The
lawmakers also said they were talking with some Democrats on a possible
compromise plan that would involve reopening the government for six
months while repealing the medical device tax, a provision of Obamacare
that is unpopular with Republicans and some Democrats.
(Reporting
by Tabassum Zakaria, Bill Trott, Paul Simao, Jeff Mason, Tom Ferraro,
Richard Cowan, Phil Stewart; Writing by Claudia Parsons; Editing by Paul
Simao)
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