What follows is a rough transcription of the interview:
TV:let’s start with what
our guest Mr. Korb said. He says the US has not been providing any weapons to
these insurgents, the assistance has been nonlethal. First of all, tell us about
those comments. What you think there and basically where are these weapons
coming from? Who has been pouring these weapons and funds into the region that
is now, apparently in the hands of these extremist groups, especially the ISIL,
which is fighting not just the Syria, but in Iraq now?
Barrett:Well, Mr. Korb is being a bit
disingenuous suggesting that the Assad government in Syria is responsible for
arming ISIL due to buying oil from them. I don’t know whether there is any such
purchase, but the fact of the matter is that is obviously not where they are
getting their arms.
They are getting their arms from the deep state network that ties
together the sort of unofficial real governments, not the elected governments,
but the deep states of the United States, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Israel,
maybe throw in Qatar, if you want to.
There was a Safari club that united the deep state apparatuses of these
countries in the past and something like it is still undoubtedly in place. So,
the US has two policies. One is its official policy, which is opposed to ISIL
and similar extremist Takfiri groups, which says it wants to hold Iraq together
and so on.
But the real policy is being run by the unofficial deep state, the
government that has nothing to do with the elected officials who are supposed to
be in charge. This is a plutocracy, which intersects with organized crime. And
this is the real government of the United States of America.
Unfortunately we do not have a democratically elected government here
anymore. We do not have a Constitution anymore. So, this imperial deep state has
been taking US taxpayer dollars and probably a lot more CIA drug-smuggling
dollars. There is a massive drug smuggling operation. US military planes are
flying heroin from Pakistan straight to the United States. Every day a plane
full of heroin is leaving Pakistan, heading for the West. The massive profits
from this are being used to arm ISIL and to do other secret errands of this deep
So ISIL is massively armed and funded by what we might call the real deep
state of the West, which is an organized crime organization. And it would be
nice if the official government would stand up against it to implement the
official policy for the region, which would be better than what is being
currently carried out by this organized crime effort. They have armed ISIL
vastly more than they have armed the government in Iraq.
The US won’t even deliver fighter planes to Iraq that have been paid for.
The US disarmed the Iraqi army years ago and never really rearmed it. And
currently Nouri al-Maliki is going to have to turn to the Russians and to Iran
for help, because the US is actually helping this extremist Takfiri “too extreme
for al-Qaeda” ISIL establish this bogus caliphate, smear Islam, and smash the
countries of the region. That is the real policy here
TV:First of all, do you
think that a transitional government, the idea that was proposed in Geneva would
have worked and was the solution? Why didn’t it work? And who was responsible
there? And also how that election in Syria has changed things in your opinion?
And why do you think the US is calling it a farce?
Barrett:The problem is that a transitional
government, which conceivably could work if there were UN supervised elections
that were honestly observed by all sides – that probably could be something that
could be worked out in some time in the future – but that is not what the US is
asking for in Geneva. The US is trying to push “Assad must go” as a prerequisite
for anything else. In fact the Syrian people did vote for President Assad in the
recent elections. In fact all of the polling data shows that he does have
majority support in Syria.
I’m not a huge fan of President Assad and I am not sure I’d vote for him
if I were a Syrian, but I’m not a Syrian. It’s not my business. Syrian people
have the right to determine their own future and hostile foreign observers,
including al-Jazeera, the state service from Qatar said at the lowest point of
Assad’s popularity he was still polling 55 percent positive support. And it is
much higher now that the so-called resistance has revealed itself a gang of
So, I think that Mr. Korb is being again very disingenuous by trying to
claim that the US was supporting Syrian people against the Assad government.
That is just not the case. It was basically following consciously or
unconsciously the Oded Yinon Israeli plan to break up Middle Eastern countries
into pieces. The US has been used by the Zionists to create these divisions:
sectarian divisions, ethnic divisions in Middle Eastern countries in order to
break them up.
And if you look at what the actual US policy is in the countries, you
will see that it’s always officially mouthing some kind of platitude like what
we are hearing from the mouth of Mr. Korb, but the reality is always working to
enable these Takfiri militants and anyone else who is helping to break up these
countries. For instance, the stalling that has been going on over Iraq, where
the US says we won’t give the Iraqi government any arms to fight against these
extremists until basically Prime Minister Maliki resigns in favor of some new
so-called inclusive government.
Well, that’s actually a non-starter and the purpose of saying that isn’t
to actually make it happen. The reason the United States is putting that forward
is simply to stall to allow ISIL, which is funded by the American deep state, to
grab more territory. And likewise in Syria, it’s the same thing. The US is
putting forward proposals that are complete non-starters. Keeping Iran away from
the table in Geneva, saying Assad – who clearly has majority support in Syria,
anyone who says he doesn’t is a liar or a lunatic – saying he must step down.
These are complete non-starters.
The whole purpose is allow extremists and sectarian secessionist forces
in the Middle East to do their dirty work, to break up these countries into
little pieces in line with the Oded Yinon for the balkanization of the Middle
East. That is the real US policy that is being pursued by the real government of
the United States, which is the organized crime deep state, drug-smuggling deep
state of the United States in control of the US and US Middle East policy. The
Zionists have a huge hand in that. That is the real policy and I guess Mr. Korb
just hasn’t gotten the memo.
TV:Who do you think is
responsible for the arrival of ISIL terrorists in Syria and Iraq? And we know
according to one report, it is the world’s richest terror group with one and a
half billion pounds in its coffers. Where is this money coming from?
Barrett:It’s coming from some of the same
places that have funded various insurgencies and counter-insurgencies all over
the world, which again, is this deep state that the empire uses to do its dirty
work. The same places that have funded the destruction of Ukraine, the five
billion dollars that Victoria Nuland said went to destroy Ukraine, the same
kinds of sources are giving similar sums to the Takfiris and other groups in the
Middle East who promised to destabilize the region.
This is the destabilization doctrine which is now the core of US policy.
So that money is coming from US taxpayers. There is the official aid that is
being sent, the nonlethal aid being sent to the so-called good terrorists, the
pro-American people who have absolutely zero support in the region…but behind
the scenes, the real action is where the weapons are being secretly given to
ISIS. And this has been going on for quite some time. It is the same method all
over the world. The US empire does this everywhere: it essentially covertly arms
and funds groups in a way that is deniable.
It is done behind the scenes. So this money is coming from US taxpayers,
it’s coming from masses of profits of CIA-linked drug smuggling which have been
estimated more than one and a half trillion dollars a year, which gets laundered
through various corrupt corporations.
So they buy arms for whoever the empire wants to destabilize, or rather
for the opponents of whoever they want to destabilize. And then of course, the
Saudis, Qataris and other Gulf actors, there is a lot of oil money from the Gulf
that is also kicking in. So that is where the money is coming from. It is
certainly not coming from oil purchases made by Assad. Talk about ridiculous
conspiracy theories. I have been called a conspiracy theorist and I have never
come up with anything quite that outlandish as this story that Assad wants to
undermine himself by creating Takfiri terrorists to slaughter his soldiers and
to dismember his country. That is completely ludicrous. Mr. Korb, you should be
ashamed of yourself.
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